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Payesko
Posted 2019-03-06 10:56 AM (#6305)
Subject: Coach # 128



(71.198.125.209)
Hi all
i am neck deep into its restoration. (took a while to finish some other projects to get it indoors) Its listed in the registry as in excellent condition. Dear god , if this is the benchmark for excellence i am upping my Xanax dosage
none the less i have the braking system nearly complete (the discontinuation of the spring kit was a gut punch)
Thank you to the knowledgeable gentleman Lou for his info last year
I have refurbished the existing Generator, and are working thru the 440 issues ( I'm a mopar guy so that is the extent of my comfort zone with this coach) Deciding on a replacement for the 1990s holly throttle body kit that was installed and i will seek out advice for the motors a/c system

What a need
live part numbers for the steering linkage components and front suspension,wheel bearings,shocks i have 9 to 3 play was hoping for one smoking gun but not the case i haven't see any info on the gearbox adjustment , assuming there is one,

Waiting to get the full drive train and and suspension complete before i dive into the coach amenities/appliances

The kitchen hood /oven was removed a microwave was installed in its place has anyone come up with a modern work around other than a simple replacement fan only
Gas furnace and both 120 a/c units are shot suggestions for good replacement units
second water tank was removed i found a decent replacement
Replacement sensors for the waste tanks?

When i look at the roof it cracks
i will be installing 4g satellite wifi and tv so will deal with the roof then
searched previous threads and the yahoo group for the suspension part numbers
if they are out there just direct me to the link
my questions will evolve as i progress
thank you all in advance for your help
Michael Payesko





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LCAC_Man
Posted 2019-03-06 11:20 AM (#6306 - in reply to #6305)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Oceanside, CA
(70.183.106.155)
Steering gear is (at least on the later coaches) a pretty standard Saginaw 800 series. It does have an adjustment(to tighten the box up) and you can find that on many youtube videos. As you suggested, it's probably not just one thing, lots of steering issues get blamed on the steering gear when it's usually only a small contributor.
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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-06 2:04 PM (#6307 - in reply to #6305)
Subject: RE: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
Please see:
Message #2883, 8/19/15, for Ball Joints.
Message #3394, 3/23/16, for Rod Ends. Mark location and COUNT number of threads engaged when removing, and install new with same number of threads. It will get you close to alignment.
Message #4006, 10/12/16, for Bushings in steering arms, and Message #4037, 10/23/16, and http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid...
Message #4446, 3/10/17, for wheel seals, and http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=112&p...
The Search Feature really WORKS !
For Bearings and Seals go to the FMC Parts book, get the "other" Part No for each item, and enter that Part No and single noun name in Google and you will get many sources and prices and alternate Part Numbers.
If there is something you CAN'T FIND via Google, please give us the Figure Number, and Item Number, in the FMC Parts BOOK.
Press On ! Lou #120
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Payesko
Posted 2019-03-07 5:02 PM (#6308 - in reply to #6307)
Subject: RE: Coach # 128



(71.198.125.209)
Hi Lou Have a question i finally came across a set of brake spring sets and to my surprise all 4 per wheel are the same On mine 2 were as shown the other two pass thru the brake shoe and grab the plate i attached a photo of the spring . assume i can just grab the shoe alone



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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-07 6:07 PM (#6309 - in reply to #6308)
Subject: RE: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
Hey Michael,
The original Brake Shoe Return Springs were two of one and two of another. Some one somewhere decided that all four could be the same, and started selling them that way. I have never found one of the springs (by Part Number). Only ones I found were the "kits" with 8 springs all the same for P500 Ford with dual rear wheels and the 15K rear axle. That special combination is the vehicle that the FMC brakes (all four) were "pirated" from.
They probably made fewer of that particular chassis set-up than all the other variations of the P500 Parcel Delivery, which is why the those Brake Parts have been relatively sparse the last 10 years and have finally dried up.
Others have used the "four of the same spring" without issue.
Got Brake Spring "pliers" ? - https://www.google.com/search?q=brake+spring+pliers&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS...

If you found Brake Shoe Return Springs . . . do they have more ?
If so, please share link with other FMCers.

FYI - I can't open your attachment . . . may be TOO BIG for THIS Website.
These may suffice - http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid... and http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid...
Brake ON ! Lou #120

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Payesko
Posted 2019-03-07 6:54 PM (#6310 - in reply to #6309)
Subject: RE: Coach # 128



(71.198.125.209)
Thanks lou i kind of like the original setup additional hold down to the plate without limiting movement pretty ingenious. an old school brake and wheel shop that is doing my machine work let me rifle thru their vast storage area found two sets i was going to have to get them made lucked out
just uploaded a photo not sure why it wont open will reduce its size next time
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Payesko
Posted 2019-03-27 7:03 PM (#6338 - in reply to #6310)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128



(71.198.125.209)
Found 4 new brake drums on a shelf in Sacramento Like manna from heaven



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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-27 7:38 PM (#6339 - in reply to #6338)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
Mucho MANNA !
Last year Greg(#708)M and a few of us bought some new manufacture ones.
Could these be the last 4 of that batch, or are these NOS (New Old Stock) ?
Are they BALANCED ? The new manufacture ones we got were not balanced.

Good on you. What a FIND !!!
Press ON ! Lou #120
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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-27 7:54 PM (#6340 - in reply to #6338)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
. . . and still can't open you embedded pictures.
Please put your pictures in "Albums", Click on Albums Tab at TOP RIGHT of Page.
The more PICTURES the BETTER !
You can add 1 or more pics at anytime to your FMC #128 pictures, or start a new Album if you want about each "subject".
Thanks, Lou #120
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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-27 9:18 PM (#6341 - in reply to #6340)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
PICTURES !
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid...
THANKS ! Lou #120



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Payesko
Posted 2019-03-30 5:11 PM (#6342 - in reply to #6341)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128



(76.253.13.76)
Hi all. Searched and cannot find an answer. How tight to set the the nut to the brake shoe hold down plate? Obviously I’m in the range of the cotter pin function but wondering how much side to side play in the shoe there should be. Thanks
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hemi354az
Posted 2019-03-30 6:32 PM (#6343 - in reply to #6342)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.181.209)
Last Item on Pg 9-15 of the FMC Service Manual.
Brake ON ! Lou #120
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B. Sitton
Posted 2019-03-31 9:20 AM (#6344 - in reply to #6343)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Ignacio Colorado
(71.211.50.52)
0.015” feeler gauge should fit between washer and brake shoe.
Bill
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Payesko
Posted 2019-04-02 5:41 PM (#6346 - in reply to #6344)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128



(107.77.92.50)
Sorry for the stupid questions. Here is another one. Taking a lot of photos as I go but did not take any of the rear hub seal. Assuming the outer ring of the seal sits flush with the hub Think I would have remembered if that seal drove all the way to the bearing race but I am unsure
Thanks
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Payesko
Posted 2019-04-02 7:26 PM (#6347 - in reply to #6346)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128



(107.77.92.50)
I figured it out.
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ricogomez
Posted 2019-05-20 10:35 AM (#6449 - in reply to #6305)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128


Location: Houston, Texas
(96.85.4.38)
Hello guys, is the FMC in the pictures with the drums the # 397 ?
it sure looks like our...???


Rico & Carmen
397
12 V & 6 Allison
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Payesko
Posted 2019-05-20 10:44 AM (#6450 - in reply to #6305)
Subject: Re: Coach # 128



(71.198.125.209)
No. 128. It’s going to do something this coming weekend that it hasn't done in a while. Drive and stop on it’s own without external assistance ( like the back of another vehicle). Will add photos to my gallery this weekend
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