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Location: Medford, OR | Well, 324 did good on our first outing, I got 6.3 mpg heading north, I cruised around 63/64 mph on Interstate 5...I haven't filled the tank yet after getting home to see what I got driving south...My GPS did log a high speed of 69! Whoops...That was at the base of a big hill.... The 440 used a 1/4 of a quart of oil, some of that went by the fuel pump gasket, a valve cover, and ?...lol. I just fixed the fuel pump gasket last night and replaced a rubber fuel line. I'm contemplating on changing the drivers side exhaust manifold (cracked at exhaust pipe collector) before my trip this weekend to the coast, but I think it'll wait. All the appliances worked like they should, all and all, I'm very happy. I had Dave Wolfe crank the steering wheel back and forth for me while we were in Oakridge, I found a couple tie rod ends with a little slop, and one lower bell crank bushing looks to be sloppy. 324 was very drivable, but I can imagine how much better it will be after I replace a few front end pieces...The 440 ran great, with the tail pipe exiting out the rear, you can hardly hear it running at a stop light. I was sitting at a rest stop for a few minutes taking a break, I left the engine idling to help with heat soak, I had a guy walk up and ask what year it was, he smiled and said "It sounds like a hot rod!"....324 has a great sounding old muffler on it, I'm going to leave it on there if I can keep it from breaking up do to age....I pulled the #6 spark plug out and took a look at it. A little oily, I cleaned it off and reinstalled. I have plans on removing the rear ladder, and I'm getting a front lower air dam from another owner. I plan on removing the tv antenna also, she's going to be sleek.....
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=200&p...
Edited by dkarnath 2019-10-07 2:34 PM
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Elite Veteran
Location: Victoria, BC. Canada | Sounds like somebody's '...falling in Love'.
You're done-for Buddy!
Suits me just fine as I was worried you was headed astray from the gang.
Terry
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Elite Veteran
Location: Oceanside, CA | Just enough on the project list to keep you out of the bars...you can add brake drum swap to the list now too.. |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | I already know that one drum is out of spec and got hot....And I'm sure there's another one that can't be turned....
Come on Terry! Yeah she's a big one, but she looks soooo good....nice and warm too on those chilly nights.... |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | I added some more to the photo album, work was a bit slow this week, so I got to play with 324 some more. Im taking it on a trip tomorrow. I believe I found the transmission leak, I'll know more about it soon, but it seems to be coming out of a plug or something just below the tail shaft housing were it mounts to the main case. I may be the tail shaft gasket though...idk.
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=200&p... |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Ignacio Colorado | That is a pin that holds the rear band apply lever and anchor. It has an o ring. When it leaks it is when parked and the torque converter drains down raising the fluid level in the transmission. Running it is above the fluid level.
Not fun to reseal in the vehicle.
Bill |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | Thanks for the good news Bill!!! |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Ignacio Colorado | Bring er on down to Colorado! It can be done in frame but it has to come plenty apart to seal that pin. I’ve seen enough silicone blobbed on that pin with atf still leaking past the o ring. Pull the extension housing, pan and valve body. Then you can drive the pin out far enough to replace the o ring and RTV the pin on the way back in. You only move the pin out enough to get the old o ring off.
Bill |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Oceanside, CA | sounds like a great opportunity to get a shift kit installed and replace the shifter shaft seal (those damn things always start leaking at the worst times..)
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Elite Veteran
Location: Victoria, BC. Canada | Hell, while you're at it, why not get Billy to throw in one of them great overdrives he & Lou are building these days?
Tranzilla!
Terry
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Elite Veteran
Location: Oceanside, CA | You need to change the settings on your album so that we can comment...it's important that I be able to heckle you on the gianormous fart can muffler you have!
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | I changed the settings |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | I took 324 out for a night of camping this weekend, the last couple times I've driven it, I've noticed the idle being a little high when warm at stoplights etc...It seemed to idle perfectly when cold? Then it started idling higher at all times this weekend, so time to take a look. I found the throttle cable on the carburetor end just kinda floating on the stud? The cruise control arm was laying down beside the carburetor next to the misc linkages...And no return spring? Looking a little closer I see the return spring hanging on the air conditioning compressor tab, and the carb end is broke off. The spring was used as the cotter pin to hold the cable and cruise control linkage to the carburetor. I also noticed the cable end didn't have an inner bushing so their is a ton of slop back and forth. Not really sure if you would even know this while driving, but I want to make it tight, so I found a piece of aluminum to use as a bushing for now. I'll look for a brass bushing at the hardware store when I go...I also lubed the cable and found the cruise control vacuum canister bolts were really loose. I put a vacuum gauge on the 440 finally, it has 14" of vacuum, I played with the timing a little, ended up in the same position that I already had it in, I adjusted the vacuum advance diaphragm again and also the idle screws. The metering rods where way out of adjustment on the Thermoquad and the choke still might need fine tuning on the air horn butterfly, it's too rich. I'm doing all this work for Len and Stephen, so when they need to work on their carburetor and throttle links they can refer to these pictures, or if Larry needs to adjust his carburetor.
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=200&p...
Edited by dkarnath 2019-10-28 10:46 AM
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Location: Oceanside, CA | absolutely gold-plated, life-saving info for me...I really can't say just how valuable this is...no...really... I just can't.. |
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Location: Bowling Green Ky. | Great find Dan 
The cruise on #324 used to work. Replaced the unit in the rear.
Choke worked very well for the 12 years I rolled it.
Carb was rebuilt by me and timing set to factory specs.
324 would always start no matter how cold or hot.
Cold starts winter: Pump the pedal three times to the floor, turn the key, fire right up. She would gradually idle faster as she warmed. Tap the pedal and it would idle down and hit on all 8, as my dad used to say. Lol.
Cold start in the summer: Pump pedal to the floor one time.
Hot start: Turn the key. If she did not fire right up, put the pedal to the floor and hold and clear her throttle of excess fuel.
Always idled great and started up, hot or cold. Every now and then , she would be a little rich on start after stopping for fuel or short shut downs.
Maybe some tried to adjust out the pug fouling, miss, with the carb screws ??? :0.
Hope this helps.
Always liked to listen to her run when, started up on a really cold day. Had a nice lope You know, that old muscle car sound from the Mopar 440
You all have a great day and may God bless your travels and adventures in your FMC'S
I sure miss those times |
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | Good set of pictures with explanations. |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Maybe something here will fit - https://www.mcmaster.com/flanged-bushings
This Video is long and covers "other" Ma Mopar engines/cars . . . but applies to our Favorite FMC 440/727.
I don't think that the "Tool" is required, but you do need to apply light forward pressure and let the throttle pin push it rearward.
I have yet to find a clear and large photo or drawing that shows just what parts stack on the throttle pin from the inside(carb) out to the tranny return spring GROOVE where the tranny spring hooks on the throttle pin.
The FMC has a different manufac throttle cable but it needs to go the same place in the "stack" that is used on the Mopar Cars/Trucks.
Nor is it clear to me just where the "Factory" Cruise Control attaches in the Carb Throttle "Pin" stack.
Guess many of you will be looking for the "jeebus clips" (little wire clips on the linkage) when you try to remove those with needle nose pliers that seem to jump out of the pliers, and most say, "Jeebus! Where did that go ?".
Bush ON !Lou #120 |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Oceanside, CA | McMaster Carr is a godsend...I can't count how many times they've had that "unfindable" item.. |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Jeebus hairpin clip TOOL - https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-tools/carburetor-pin-tool
Clip ON !
Lou @120 |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Ignacio Colorado | The tool Lou posted should be in any toolbox that will be working with carburetors and lots more. Mine is over thirty years old. Well worth having.
Bill |
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Extreme Veteran
Location: Ignacio Colorado | The original throttle cable end is much larger than the carburetor pin. Bushing is nice but not needed. The spring is not to be installed as the pin in the linkage. It bends it until it breaks. Obviously. Was the kickdown (passing gear) working. That’s important to transmission life.
Bill |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | Yeah the kick down works. The down rod going to the arm hits the insulation on the firewall at full throttle, I'm not sure if I should do anything about that, but it looks to be moving the arm way forward.
I could of used that tool many times, I have a "special" pair of small needle nose pliers I use for the Jeebus motherdkfj;lr!!! clips... |
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Veteran
Location: Olympia, Washington | Locking hemostats or 'roach clip' always worked for me. |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | I have a locking set of hemostats in the box too George....no roach clip anymore....I switched that one out for a can coozey.... |
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Elite Veteran
Location: Medford, OR | Been doing some things to 324, replaced the driver side valve cover gasket and exhaust manifold gasket, of course lost all anti freeze out one of the exhaust studs...after start up, still had a smoky leak at that valve cover/exhaust manifold? Then I seen the glistening little river of oil running down and out of the PCV valve grommet..ugh. Ordered new and replaced, all good. My exhaust now is tight for the time being, I have the two new low style manifolds to go on it in the future. This weekend I am going to do a compression test on the 440, if I find any low compression, I am probably going to buy a complete "supposedly" great running 440/727 that is on Craigslist here locally, it's out of a 1973 Travco. I can probably get the hole package, fan to parking brake drum for 500 bucks. I'll just do an engine/tranny swap in the future, will need to be done before the Nebraska rally....Remember, I'm on a budget here....I also removed the rear ladder, plugged the holes with some white rivets. I have a front air dam being picked up out of state for me in the near future, I'm stoked on that. I haven't been taking any pictures lately, but I have this one.
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=200&p...
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