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fredeye
Posted 2016-03-09 6:31 PM (#3362)
Subject: Pricing Help



(198.187.233.249)
I am a new FMC fan... I am looking at a 79 coach.... it as 29K original miles... it has never had water or waste in the tanks. It has been stored indoors and has not been driven for 20 years. Large scratch on drivers side over paint stripe. Other than that, the exterior and interior are in perfect shape. All original. Can anyone help me with pricing the vehicle . I am interested in buying the coach. Thank you so much.
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andy1canada
Posted 2016-03-09 7:17 PM (#3363 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help


Location: Victoria, BC. Canada
(108.180.117.65)
The last FMC - of the 1052 or so ever built - rolled off the line in 1976.
The story you have on the coaches history begs the question: Where did they go 'do-do' and what did they drink for 29,000 miles? Beer... I guess.

Good low-mileage numbers if the odometer is working. If it's a 'Southern' or desert coach - where they don't see salted roads in the winter - that's a bonus, too.

If it's not been driven for 20 yrs, figure on a complete brake service before it rolls and a fuel system purge/flush and carb overhaul etc.
Also, if the rubber is 20 yrs old, I wouldn't roll on it; others might. If it has Alcoa aluminum wheels, the rims alone fetch another $3/K or so over the stock 17" 2-pc rims.

Tough call without seeing it. Some just want the thing 'gone' and nearly give them away or let them go for well under $5/K. Nice coaches with everything working, good glass, upholstery, paint and Alcoa's can fetch upwards of $20/K or more. Add in a diesel conversion and the sky is the limit depending on the engine/trans and who did the work.

About 4 yrs ago, I determined the average selling price of FMC's in the continental US (on Craigslist) was around $11/K. For that I would expect good brakes, good engine/trans, newer tires with Alcoas, decent upholstery and presentable paint.

Hope this helps and that others might chime in if they aren't on the same page with my observations.

Good luck,
Terry
#846
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5Dollar
Posted 2016-03-09 9:23 PM (#3366 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help


Location: Bethune, SC
(165.166.72.232)
Is this an extended coach by Barth? What is the Production Number? Last true FMC was made in 1976?

Are you very mechanically inclined? Are you in good health?

Even though this coach is low mileage, you will more than likely have to go through each system on the coach with a fine tooth comb to have a reliable coach. Mechanical systems are unique and parts are not listed in any parts store. While the engine is a Chrysler 440, it is the industrial version. I bought a coach, #254, with about the same mileage for $2,000, I will have well over $10,000 in it before it even hits the road, including relocation towing expenses, and I feel it is a good buy.

I have another coach with over 100,000 miles on it that is in excellent condition, new engine, transmission, 5 figure paint job, designer interior, 22.5" Michelin tires ($860 ea when you can find them) for which I paid about $10,000. It cost about $4,000 to have the auto AC system rebuilt. Great coach.

Finally, I just bought a decent coach for a fair price that I drove home, about fifty miles. Drove well, ran like a rocket ship, needs minor work, and tires, but is promising. That is after I replace the transmission that blew the reverse band when I tried to back it into my garage.

My plans are to rebuild two for my children.

In the middle of all this, I was diagnosed with Stage 3+ prostate cancer. Thankfully, it looks like radiation treatment has taken care of that, but has taken my energy down a few levels.

I rent a former Ryder truck rental garage that easily holds all three, plus a boat. An indoor facility is a real plus. This one is has drive through bays as well.

I will do about 50% of the work myself to make these coaches exceptional. I will direct skilled mechanics in the rest.

You are fare better off to buy a coach in excellent shape than you are to buy one that needs 'TLC.' You will be getting the restoration at about ten to twenty cents on the dollar, at most.

Even if cost is not an issue, finding a good common sense mechanic at any price is no easy task.

The coach you are looking at sounds like a good starting point if you want to take that route. If it has the Budd split ring 17" rims, one piece 19.5 rims will cost about $150 a piece. Brakes will definitely need work to bring them up to par. Cylinder seals and booster diaphragms are probably dry and brittle. Generator - carb rebuild at a minimum and tuning. Engine (?) Transmission (?) Shocks (?) Cooling system (???) AC ($$$$)

If you like 70's colors, and will accept the interior, major cost savings.

My estimate would be from $3,000 to $5,000, depending on how far you had to tow it.

Good luck,
Henry
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LCAC_Man
Posted 2016-03-10 7:06 AM (#3367 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help


Location: Oceanside, CA
(172.10.134.245)
To give you something to compare to, I bought #1027 last fall for $6750. Here's a link to the picture album so that you can see its condition:
http://www.fmcowners.com/mbbs22/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid...
It had set for 3.5yrs, but, was in Sedona, AZ, and was a Southern Ca. coach before that so it had always been in dry climate. I was willing to pay a little extra because it had Alcoa wheels, an awning, a leveling system, a nearly new motor, and the central AC system had already been removed and roof AC installed.
As I'm doing a diesel conversion I was able to sell the new motor and a few other parts that I won't need to cover all the transport/registration cost. I'll have something close to $30k in mine when it hits the road...but it will be with a modern drivetrain, suspension, brake system, diesel generator, etc...

Edited by LCAC_Man 2016-03-10 7:08 AM
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andy1canada
Posted 2016-03-10 7:07 AM (#3368 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help


Location: Victoria, BC. Canada
(108.180.117.65)
Sending best wishes from up North for a speedy recovery Henry! Great post.

Terry
#846
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dkarnath
Posted 2016-03-10 10:20 AM (#3370 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help


Location: Medford, OR
(204.10.247.1)
I think the OP is looking at coach #79.

I'd say the value of a coach that is completely immobile (like has been setting for 20+ years) but in excellent original 'indoor' stored condition should be less than 5k no matter what options it has. Len just searched the globe for his bad ash project and you can see what coach he decided on. My personal opinion is, if you have up to date maintenance records, an exterior paint job that is worth washing, all domestic systems in working order, nice interior, and clean road ready "factory running gear" rig, it should sell for around 10-15k....It also depends on what region of the country you live in, and how far you are willing to go to purchase an FMC. I wouldn't part with 850 for less than that. No chance in hell, and I still have the 17" rims. They all need a lot of work, time and money to be reliable just as Henry so elaborately described...Fuk Cancer Henry!!!

Edited by dkarnath 2016-03-10 10:28 AM
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hemi354az
Posted 2016-03-10 10:50 AM (#3371 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: RE: Pricing Help


Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona
(24.251.160.88)
Cheap . . . Fast . . . Reliable. Pick TWO !
Lou #120
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fredeye
Posted 2016-03-10 12:27 PM (#3372 - in reply to #3362)
Subject: Re: Pricing Help



(198.187.233.249)
Greeting all...Thank you so much for all of the time you made and took to answer my post. I don't know if I will ever be a coach owner....but i do know that you guys are a really great group that I am sure would be great fun to hang out with. Thank you again... and Henry...my best wishes to you for a speedy recovery. You rock. Again... thank you all , Rick
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